So back in the day when Skype was still new tech and I worked for small remote company we did interviews over the phone. It was absolutely wonderful for eliminating bias. We had a very diverse cross section of employees from many backgrounds doing very good work for us.

I kind of miss those days now that Zoom is everywhere and it's an expectation that you present yourself on video for others.

I get why a sales job might want to make sure you keep up appearances but just writing code, I really hate turning on video. No one I know wants to acknowledge that we aren't solving bias with video though. I am glad you brought this up though. I believe it's true.