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Ok, so we're on the same page as to what we're referring to, but, to be clear, that 50% claim is incorrect[1], it's much lower than that.

Who is claiming that more than 50% of people are "less happy than average"? That's not a disorder. I'm fairly certain that the DSM doesn't make a claim like that, does the APA? It feels straw-manish.

I know that it's hard to diagnose these more intangible issues, but they are still very important regardless. If more than 50% of people in a society were unhappy, isn't it possible that the society is making them that way and it's not something wrong with the scale?

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3105841/



I tried to correct myself above, and included the source this time.

The actual statistic I was misremembering says that 50.8% of people will meet the requirements for an Axis 1 or higher diagnoses before the age of 75. You're right that it's important to be accurate. Mea Culpa.

To the actual point of my wildly incorrect claim: If most people are judged to be mentally ill at some point in their life, and most of the diagnoses can only be made relative to some baseline that's deemed to be "normal", isn't that just a different way of saying that it's "normal" to be mentally ill?


Most mental health diagnoses are transient. If half of people at some point experience diagnosable mental illness in their lives, that doesn't seem all that outlandish to me. Most of us will, at some point, have some kind of non-psychiatric illness, too.


You, and SketchySeaBeast, both make a good point.

I can't reply to Sketchy anymore (throttled maybe?), but I appreciate you both taking the time to have this conversation today. You've made me think a bit harder about something I've believed for 20+ years, and I think I agree now.


I don't think that it's incorrect at all to say that half of us will at some or multiple points in time suffer from some disorder, in fact I find it comforting to recognize that we will all go through this at some point.

We all go through rough patches that can make our mental health slip, just like we go through rough patches where our physical health slips. What's important is that we recognize when something is wrong and get the help we need.

Just like my first point, it's normal to be older and have high blood pressure, but if that's the case, you should probably be taking medication.




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